We have used the Dual Fuel Stoves and the canister stoves all with success but the canister stoves are no good in real cold climates. In recent times we have converted to Metho stove for touring and to my surprise, has worked brilliantly. I've been wanting to buy a Trangia Stove kit and leave it in the 4by for those spontaneous trips. They are simple - quick and they should never really fail on u....